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Should Bombazar be Released eventually?

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Bombazar, still too good?

Post by Secret_Wyvern on 14.02.17 15:32



Bombazar, Dragon of Destiny.

I can tell at least someone cringed at that name. And why wouldn't they? This card nearly killed Duel Masters itself.
Now before we start asking the question of this post let's look over this card a bit, for anyone that doesn't know what this beast is.

Bombazar, Dragon of Destiny
Fire/Nature
Cost 7
Power 6000
Armored Dragon/Earth Dragon
Speed Attacker
Double Breaker
When you summon this creature destroy all other creatures with 6000 power. At the end of the turn take another one. You lose the game at the end of that turn.

Now just looking at that you should be able to see plenty of problems. It's a dragon first of all. And we all know that dragons are Duel Masters favorite creature type. So when it come's to races he's got all the support to make him work. Next he's fire and nature. The 2 civilizations that represent speed. Fire with it's rush and cost reduction and nature and it's ramp. And he has speed attacker so he can attack immediately. His screen nuke effect isn't that useful but it could remove some creatures. The effect that got him banned however is the extra turn effect. Anyone who's gone against or used an extra turn knows how amazing it is. You get an extra draw, extra mana and you get to attack with all your creatures again.

The only drawback is at the end of that turn you lose the game. But that's barely a problem as you almost definitely have won by then.

Now on to the question of the post.

Could he ever be brought back, probably at 1?

Let's look at some reasons he could be brought back first.
-He's not the only creature that gives you an extra turn anymore. While he gives you the easiest extra turn there are still more creatures that can give you them. And VV-8 can give you that extra turn really easily if you build a deck that supports him, hell, you could even get 2 turns out of that creature! And since he's not restricted you could run 2 at once then use Dokindam Area Forbidden of D to summon 2 at once and get 2 turns! And lots of extra win cards are coming soon with the Jokers
-He can't be cost trampled by Dogiragon Buster
-He's an armored dragon and that type of dragon hasn't been supported that much in years
-Bolmeteus Sapphire was released from being completely banned
-Easily removed
-Troll Ragnarok in final shield

Reasons this is a stupid thought and he should never be brought back
-Blue Dragon Earth
-So many years of Dragon Support
-Extra turn! You don't have to deal with seals or get your opponent to choose him you just get an extra turn!
-You can summon him on the third turn if your lucky with mendelssohn and have him and scramble change in hand! Then you could rev change into Dogiragon Buster cost trample something then next turn win the game.
-He's a good revolution change target
-Dragon Jackpot

So what do you think? Could Bombazar be released from his hold in the near future? Me personally, the optimist in me believes he might be ok at 1, extremely dangerous in a deck build around him, but not the worst possible thing ever. But the logical side of me thinks control players will make him the worst thing ever and hate everyone for letting him be released.
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Re: Bombazar, still too good?

Post by Mr-ex777 on 14.02.17 15:41

Oh god you know that Bombazar can do a lot of things in OCG right...? It's cheap, it isn't slow like VV-8 and can be spammed by Scramble Change.

He can revolution change to Buster and is basically worse than Evil Heat and Manalock if with Scramble Change and that alone is bullshit and should not be allowed. and a 3 turn bombazar is baiscally suicide if you have nothing to follow it up, and Blue Dragon Earth is even more suicide as the Extra turn happens before the opponent's turn. Plus it makes 5c Jackpot worse as if Bolas is not enough. Plus there's also a thing called Magnum Shortshot and Rafululu which prevents the clock/DNA Spark hax from happening. And it's not hard to determine if the opponent is running high on creature triggers or spell triggers. Plus Miraculous Truce isn't common these days and does not make Takara any money.

Anyone who thinks about Bombazar being released is just as worse than those who think Giovanni or Patrol should be released.

If you have any questions wait until april fools and i will show you.
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Re: Bombazar, still too good?

Post by Secret_Wyvern on 14.02.17 15:45

@Mr-ex777 wrote:Oh god you know that Bombazar can do a lot of things in OCG right...? It's cheap, it isn't slow like VV-8 and can be spammed by Scramble Change.

He can revolution change to Buster and is basically worse than Evil Heat and Manalock if with Scramble Change and that alone is bullshit and should not be allowed. and a 3 turn bombazar is baiscally suicide if you have nothing to follow it up, and Blue Dragon Earth is even more suicide as the Extra turn happens before the opponent's turn. Plus it makes 5c Jackpot worse as if Bolas is not enough. Plus there's also a thing called Magnum Shortshot and Rafululu which prevents the clock/DNA Spark hax from happening. And it's not hard to determine if the opponent is running high on creature triggers or spell triggers.

Anyone who thinks about Bombazar being released is worse than those who think Giovanni or Patrol should be released.

If you have any questions wait until april fools and i will show you.

Did you read the entire thing? I brought up all these problems. I just wanted to ask a hypothetical question, could he ever be released in the near future, besides aren't you the one saying cards like blue dragon earth and scramble change are gonna be restricted/banned? I believe they'd have to be for him to even be considered to be released but I wanted to see what other people thought.
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Re: Bombazar, still too good?

Post by Mr-ex777 on 14.02.17 15:47

@Secret_Wyvern wrote:
@Mr-ex777 wrote:Oh god you know that Bombazar can do a lot of things in OCG right...? It's cheap, it isn't slow like VV-8 and can be spammed by Scramble Change.

He can revolution change to Buster and is basically worse than Evil Heat and Manalock if with Scramble Change and that alone is bullshit and should not be allowed. and a 3 turn bombazar is baiscally suicide if you have nothing to follow it up, and Blue Dragon Earth is even more suicide as the Extra turn happens before the opponent's turn. Plus it makes 5c Jackpot worse as if Bolas is not enough. Plus there's also a thing called Magnum Shortshot and Rafululu which prevents the clock/DNA Spark hax from happening. And it's not hard to determine if the opponent is running high on creature triggers or spell triggers.

Anyone who thinks about Bombazar being released is worse than those who think Giovanni or Patrol should be released.

If you have any questions wait until april fools and i will show you.

Did you read the entire thing? I brought up all these problems. I just wanted to ask a hypothetical question, could he ever be released in the near future, besides aren't you the one saying cards like blue dragon earth and scramble change are gonna be restricted/banned? I believe they'd have to be for him to even be considered to be released but I wanted to see what other people thought.

My opinion is clear: Don't release it or we are all in big trouble.

Also i did not say blue dragon earth should be resricted, and Scramble Change is less of a problem when Manalock is restricted. It allows me to spam Oni Seven Win, Malt "Blade" and MaltNEXT earlier too, but the Manalock thing is just nonsense.
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Re: Bombazar, still too good?

Post by ELTP on 14.02.17 15:49

I'd keep him banned, he is no good for DM. Luckily he had that ability of destroying 6000 power creatures so both Jagalzor and Cryptic Totem were not that useful with it but it wasn't enough for balancing it, clearly.

If you build a Bombazar deck nowadays you should be extra careful with your opponents shields especially because of the above mentioned Ragnarok and the Sparks but you could use various cards to either look them and time your attacks / remove toxic shields or simply prevent STs with Galamuta or Shortshot

Maybe Bombazar wouldn't totally crush the meta but I hope the meta never gets so OP that Bombazar could be let back. For now, I think Bombazar would be too much for Duel Masters.


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